Mises Institute: Video: Joseph T. Salerno: “The Myth of a Fair Tax”: What Price Should We Pay For a Civilize Society

Price to Pay For a Civilized Society

Price to Pay For a Civilized Society

The Myth of a Fair Tax | Joseph T. Salerno – YouTube.

For anyone who believes that taxes are theft or illegal or unconstitutional. First of all you should look up the definitions of those terms because you are simply wrong because one of our. Constitutional-amendments allows for the Federal Government to tax individuals and organizations. And taxes are passed by law that are constitutional under the United States Constitution. My other point would be that for everyone who doesn’t believe in taxes at any level from any government. I suggest you move to a country that doesn’t have taxes and see how that works out for you and good. Luck finding a developed country that doesn’t have any tax at any level or perhaps you can build that country for yourself. Good luck doing any of these things because your best shot is trying to eliminate the taxing-power in the United States Constitution. Try to get that out of Congress with both the House and Senate approving it with 2/3 majorities and then find 34-50 states to approve. Of that as well and again good luck with these things because you are going to need that to say the least.

The real question in this debate in America among the 85-90% of the country who are not let’s say Anarcho-Libertarians. And I even know Libertarians who are in favor of at least some level of taxation people who I call Liberal-Libertarians. People like Gary Johnson who also happen to be the Libertarians Party 2012 Presidential-nominee. Believe in a certain level of taxation but that we should tax people based on what they take or consume from society not what they produce for. Society that we tax people based on what they consume but let them keep everything that make except for what they consume. So in theory someone could escape paying any taxes at least at the Federal-level if they do not consume anything on their own. That they consume things that weren’t given to them but as we all know even the cheapest bastards in the world spend at least some of their money. So then the question is what we should all be taxed based on what we consume if your idea of. Tax-reform is the consumption-tax to replace the income-tax.

My idea of tax-reform is what I call the Progressive Consumption Tax. That we create an economy where everyone is as successful and independent as they possibly can and allow them to keep. Almost all of the fruits of their labor and let them enjoy all of it. And only tax them when they consume from society consume things that they didn’t create that were created by someone else that they. Paid for and tax them base on that and tax basic-necessities at low rates and let’s say luxury-items at higher levels. And allow people to make as much money as they can but tax them when they consume things produced by others. To pay for the things that we need a limited constitutional government to do for us.

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6 Responses to Mises Institute: Video: Joseph T. Salerno: “The Myth of a Fair Tax”: What Price Should We Pay For a Civilize Society

  1. G K says:

    “My other point would be that for everyone who doesn’t believe in taxes at any level from any government. I suggest you move to a country that doesn’t have taxes and see how that works out for you and good.”

    So using this reasoning, if slavery of a race were present across the world, we should accept it since we can’t start our own country or move to a place that doesn’t have slavery? I really find it sad that someone so smart could make such a stupid comment.
    The only rational response is, “Yes, tax is blatantly unethical, but since it will not likely be abolished tomorrow, we should be focused primarily on how can we reduce the tyranny and impoverishment it causes.”

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    • Here’s an example of why some so-called Libertarians have a hard time being taken seriously. And tend to have as little respect as classical-Socialists or Christian-Theocrats. Because they compare things like taxes to slavery which are two different things.

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      • gkucera says:

        FRS completely (and probably intentionally) ignored the point and constructed a straw man argument. I didn’t equate taxes to slavery. I claim they are are both patently unjust and used slavery as another injustice only related to debunking the bogus argument that we should accept injustice because it exists everywhere.

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      • So-called Libertarians people who I call Anarcho-Libertarians. Like equating slavery and taxes in the same conversation and argument which you did. You brought that upon yourself.

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      • gkucera says:

        Is this an attempt at a rebuttal? Because I don’t see one. Just to clear up your confusion. A dog is an animal. A horse is an animal. This doesn’t imply a dog is a horse. Get it?

        Now, if you care to form a syllogism.
        1. Slavery is unjust, but was commonly accepted practice in many countries.
        2. Taxing (or extorting) someone is unjust, but is commonly accepted practice in many countries.
        3. It is fallacious reasoning to assert that because something is commonly accepted in society that it is ethical, and above objecting to.

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      • Confusion, whose confusion and about what. The only confusion I see here is coming from you. Talking about rebuttals. I’m glad you know the difference between a dog and a horse but I’m not impressed by that. Maybe I can clear up your confusion. Rebuttal, this is not a debate but a blog that you commented on. Are you still with me? You commented on my post and I told you what I thought of it and again you out slavery and taxes in the same conversation as if they have anything to do with each other. And I told you what I thought of that. I write the blog here and allow for people to comment on it to get impact about what people think of my posts. And they can agree or disagree and if they have questions about why I take certain position. I’m more than happy to tell them why but I’m not here to tell everyone including you that disagrees with my. That I’m right and you are wrong but to layout why I have the positions that I do. This is not a debating society but a blog and I hope I cleared up your confusion.

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